CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Nelson
Squires
Air
Products - IR
John
McGlade
Air
Products - Chairman, President & CEO
Paul
Huck
Air
Products - SVP & CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Jeff Zekauskas
JPMorgan
- - Analyst
Mike
Sison
KeyBanc
- - Analyst
Don
Carson
UBS
- - Analyst
David
Begleiter
Deutsche
Bank - Analyst
Laurence
Alexander
Jefferies
- - Analyst
P.J.
Juvekar
Citi
- - Analyst
John
McNulty
Credit
Suisse - Analyst
Mike
Harrison
First
Analysis - Analyst
Sergey
Vasnetsov
Barclays
Capital - analyst
David
Manthey
Robert
W. Baird - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good morning and
welcome to Air Products' conference call to discuss our offer to acquire Airgas.
As a reminder, you will be in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer
segment of today's call. In order to accommodate everyone, we ask that you limit
yourself one question and one follow-up question. (Operator
Instructions)
Also, this
telephone conference presentation and the comments made on behalf of Air
Products are subject to copyright by Air Products, and all rights are reserved.
Air Products will be recording this teleconference and may publish all or a
portion of the teleconference. No other recording or redistribution of this
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agreement.
Beginning today's
call is Mr. Nelson Squires, Director of Investor Relations. Mr. Squires, you may
begin, sir.
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Nelson Squires - Air Products -
IR
Thank you, Felicia.
This is Nelson Squires. Good morning and welcome to today's teleconference to
discuss the news of our offer to acquire Airgas. With me on the call today are
John McGlade, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Paul Huck, Senior Vice
President and Chief Financial Officer. The slides for this teleconference are
available on our website.
Please go to
airproducts.com\airgasoffer to access the materials. This site will be updated
regularly with information on the transaction. Instructions for accessing a
replay of this call beginning at 2 p.m. Eastern Time are also available on the
website. Please turn to slides 2 and.
As always, today's
teleconference will contain forward-looking statements based on current
expectations regarding important risk factors. Please review the information on
slides 2 and 3 and at the end of today's release.
Now I will turn the
call over to John McGlade.
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman,
President & CEO
Thank you, Nelson,
and thanks to all of you for joining us this morning on such short notice.
Please turn to slide 4. I am pleased to share with you that earlier today, we
made it public our intent to acquire Airgas for $60 per share in an all-cash
transaction. I should point out that we have made a number of attempts to engage
Airgas in the discussion regarding our interest over the last four
months.
That being said, we
are here today because we are excited about this opportunity and what it will
mean for the shareholders, customers and employees of both companies. Paul and I
will provide you with background on the compelling reasons for the transaction,
as well as key financial details, and we will then be happy to take your
questions.
Please turn to
slide 5. We are offering Airgas shareholders $60 per share in cash. This
represents a premium of 38% over yesterday's closing price. We expect the
transaction to yield substantial cost synergies with a $250 million annual run
rate expected by the end of year two. It will be accretive to both our GAAP and
cash EPS immediately.
I want to emphasize
that we have the financing fully committed to complete this transaction. And
finally, we have carefully considered the regulatory issues and believe we
understand and are prepared to make the required divestitures to complete this
transaction. We do not expect these to be material.
Please turn to
slide 6. Now let me share the strategy and reasoning behind the transaction. We
believe the acquisition of Airgas represents a unique opportunity to create one
of the largest integrated industrial gas companies in the world. It provides Air
Products with world-class competencies in all three major supply modes --
packaged gas, liquid bulk and tonnage -- and strengthens our North American
position.
It brings together
the strengths and skills of two superior organizations with the ability to
leverage two outstanding and highly complementary groups of employees. We will
be able to better serve customers by matching our strong applications offerings
with Airgas' broad presence and sales coverage across the United
States.
The timing for this
combination is excellent. It allows Air Products to reenter the US packaged gas
market at a good point in the economic cycle. It also allows us to leverage our
global infrastructure, SAP investment and broad supply chain
capabilities.
As I mentioned a
moment ago, we see a compelling argument for this transaction, one that is based
on growth both in North America and globally, and when combined with the
significant cost synergies, delivers tremendous value.
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Please turn to
slide 7. Now, let's take a brief look at Airgas. Airgas was founded in 1982.
Through a combination of organic growth and rollup acquisitions, they have built
the premier position in the United States packaged gas business. Over the past
five years, they have grown revenues at a 19% average annual rate, with 7% of
that coming from organic same-store sales growth.
In fiscal 2009,
they had total sales of $4.3 billion across a broad range of industries as shown
on the pie chart on this slide. They bring density to key geographies as you can
see on the map. And finally, they have built an extensive field salesforce of
greater than 1500 representatives. I believe this is one of the principal assets
of the company and one that I see creating significant value.
Please turn to
slide 8. We believe that this transaction creates significant value by combining
the skills and capabilities of two outstanding companies. We bring our global
presence and broad international infrastructure, which we will use to extend the
Airgas business model into new regions to produce greater growth.
We have a large
packaged gas business in Europe. Over the past several years, we have made
significant improvements in this business and have successfully introduced many
new offerings. Bringing these new offerings to Airgas will enhance their growth
profile, while Airgas' broader packaged gas skills will help us to continue to
grow and reduce costs in our European packaged gases operations.
Air Products has
significant capabilities in the gas applications, tonnage, engineering and
planned operations areas, that we will be able to leverage more broadly through
Airgas' sales coverage. Additionally, we will apply these skills to Airgas'
operations to lower costs.
Airgas'
distribution expertise and strong capabilities and acquisition sourcing and
integration will also help to reduce costs and stimulate growth across our
merchant gas operations.
Finally, Airgas is
just at the beginning of an SAP implementation. Our success in implementing and
making SAP work for us to deliver greater and faster benefits will allow us to
accelerate the benefits that Airgas will achieve. The result of this will be a
company of greater capability that will be lower cost, deliver faster growth,
and generate significantly more cash.
Please turn to
slide 9. This combination would make Air Products the largest industrial gas
company in North America, an area of the world that has been a major source of
growth for the industry and will be responsible for 28% of the world's growth
over the next five years.
This combination
also creates one of the world's largest industrial gas companies. The combined
company adds significantly to our own packaged gases operations and gives us a
broader set of product offerings, which we can bring to our customers around the
world.
Finally, as a fully
integrated supplier with a broad set of product offerings and more balance over
the three modes of supply -- tonnage, liquid bulk and packaged gases -- we will
have world-class competencies that better position us to continue to lower our
costs and increase our growth.
Let's take a moment
to discuss the benefits of integration. Please turn to slide 10. On this slide,
you see the three modes of supply of industrial gases in the middle and the
product offerings on the left, with the benefits of integration on the right.
Between tonnage and liquid bulk, you get the benefit of coproduct economics from
large tonnage plants for argon production and for liquid oxygen and liquid
nitrogen production. These products are sold directly to the customers or
repackaged for sale through the packaged gases business.
With a broad
geographic system of liquid bulk plants, you also get benefits of backup supply
for tonnage plants. Between liquid bulk and packaged gases, you get even further
benefits. Given packaged gases' broader customer base, you get significantly
more sales coverage and greater insight into the customer's operations, which
allows you to spot more opportunities for industrial gas applications
earlier.
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There are also
supply chain benefits. Packaged gases are an important outlet for the products
generated and sold by a liquid bulk supply chain. This provides further density
of customer base, which drives important distribution efficiencies.
Additionally, there
are many industry sectors such as construction, fabrication, food, medical,
analytical and pharmaceuticals, to name a few, with have large packaged gas
requirements which we will be able to serve better with a combined
offering.
In the end, a
well-positioned industrial gases business with strength in all three modes in a
given geography can deliver higher growth, higher profitability and better
customer service.
Please turn to
slide 11. Before I turn the call over to Paul, I'd like to remind you of our
other growth opportunities. This transaction will not impact Air Products'
ability to capture growth opportunities around the world. We will retain our
strong and ready access to investment capital, and our key process engineering,
project management and operating resources will largely be unaffected by this
transaction.
We will continue on
a path to invest $1.5 billion in capital this fiscal year, and as always, stand
ready to fund projects that meet our strategy and return criteria. We are
well-positioned to continue our growth in the areas of energy, environmental and
emerging markets without this acquisition. The addition of Airgas will only
increase the depth and number of our opportunities in these areas through
broader customer access and increased product offerings.
Now I will turn the
call over to Paul.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Thanks, John, and
good morning to everyone. This is Paul Huck. I am excited to be here today to
tell you about this outstanding opportunity to grow our company.
Please turn to
slide 13. First, I'd like to address the Airgas shareholders. Air Products is
ready to pay $60 per share in cash for your shares. We believe this is an
excellent value for you and is a premium of 38% over yesterday's close and an
18% premium to Airgas' 52-week high.
This offer
represents an opportunity for immediate liquidity in an uncertain economic
environment. The premium we are willing to pay is comparable to similar
transactions and represents a multiple of 10.5 times EBITDA for the last 12
months.
We can pay this
price because we are bringing together the complementary skills of these two
excellent companies, resulting in a unique opportunity to grow faster at lower
cost, creating significant shareholder value. We believe this is a fair price
for your shares, which fully values Airgas' complementary capabilities and
attractive long-term growth prospects.
As you will see in
our filings, we have made two written offers to your management and board. The
first offer for $60 per share paid in Air Products stock. The second offer was
for $62 per share, with up to half in cash. In both offers, we asked the
management to engage and negotiate with us, and we were open to raising our
offer if they could demonstrate more value. Both offers were quickly rejected by
Airgas with no willingness to engage.
Therefore, we
decided to take our offer directly to you, the shareholders. We have made the
offer all in cash to provide you with certainty of outcome. However, the
rejections by your management and board have forced us to take a more costly
path for this transaction, increasing our transaction costs substantially.
Because of this extra cost, we have reduced our offer by $2 to $60 per
share.
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We urge you to
contact them and demand that they engage with Air Products to negotiate a deal
acceptable to all parties that will result in you realizing this significant
premium which we have offered. As we have made clear, we are willing to reflect
in our offer additional value that Airgas can demonstrate.
Please turn to
slide 14. Now, I'd like to address the Air Products shareholders. I hope that
John's review of the compelling strategic reasons and industrial logic has
piqued your interest in this transaction. What I will do over the next few
slides is take you through some highlights of the transaction.
One thing to keep
in mind is that we are discussing a transaction that is not final. Our estimates
are based on our own assumptions and on publicly-available information and are,
therefore, subject to change. It is our expectation that as we engage with
Airgas directly, we will find even more ways to create value.
At $60 per share,
the total cost of the transaction is $7 billion, consisting of a $5.1 billion
for the equity and the assumption of $1.9 billion of debt. The financing is
fully committed for this transaction, whether we proceed with a tender offer or
if Airgas' management and board choose to engage us. We and our advisors have
taken a close look at this transaction, and we would expect to maintain an
investment grade rating following closing, using all debt.
As we get closer to
finalizing the transaction, we will formalize our permanent financing plans and
share that with you at that time.
Finally, we will
maintain our dividend policy that we have had in place for a long period of
time. We will continue to pay out 30% to 40% of our income to shareholders in a
dividend.
Please turn to
slide 15. On this slide are some key pro forma financial measures for this
transaction. We have excluded the one-time transaction and integration costs and
have included our estimate of the impact of the regulatory divestitures. Two of
the key measures we will use to track our progress are cash EPS, which is GAAP
EPS with the non-cash amortization of the intangibles associated with the
transaction added back; and EBITDA margin, which is a simple cash margin measure
that also excludes the impact of the acquisition-driven
amortization.
As you can see from
the accretion dilution graph, this transaction is immediately accretive in year
one on both a GAAP and cash basis. On the EBITDA margin graph, you can also see
that this transaction is also strongly accretive.
The combined
company over the last 12 months would have had a combined margin of
approximately 23%. In year two of this transaction, the EBITDA margin grows by
approximately 300 basis points to about 26%. The margin growth is due to our
significant cost synergies and the achievement of our existing margin program
which is on schedule for 2011, and which we have previously committed to
you.
Please turn to
slide 16. As I stated earlier, we expect to deliver a run rate of $250 million
in cost synergies by the end of year two. These synergies arise from a number of
areas. Let me take you through the key areas where we see the largest
savings.
A key element of
our efforts to produce and sustain cost synergies is the integration of the
information technology and business operating systems that run the Airgas
business. They are currently in the beginning stages of converting to an
integrated enterprise resource planning system using the SAP
software.
We already have
implemented a broad integrated SAP system, operating across our global
operations. This includes our packaged gas operations in Europe and Asia. We
plan to bring Airgas onto this system and expect to achieve the same level
efficiencies which we have been able to attain in our IT, finance and
back-office operations by using shared services.
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We will also
leverage our continuous improvement process and tools that were critical to our
recent margin improvement. This is a business which operates with a large number
of transactions, numerous products and significant inventory. There are many
touch points and handoffs in these activities.
In our packaged gas
operations in Europe, we have achieved significant benefits in lowering the cost
to serve a customer by using both our continuous improvement process and the
information in SAP to drive lower costs and improve performance. We also will
use all of these tools to lower the cost of our purchases between the two
companies by leveraging our greater combined purchasing
requirements.
Overheads represent
another opportunity. Over the past few years, we have been very effective in
lowering our SG&A as a percentage of sales. We have reduced it from 13% in
2004 to 11.4% in 2009. We would look to drive savings of a similar nature by
eliminating overlapping operations between the two companies, removing layers of
management, and implementing the best practices from each company.
Finally, we also
recognize that there are certain key elements of Airgas that we do not want to
change, and those areas we will maintain. First, we fully intend to continue the
successful acquisition and rollup strategy that they have been pursuing. These
efforts have been key to their success, and it is a capability we intend to
utilize more broadly, both in North America and globally.
Additionally, much
of Airgas' success has been driven by a local, high-touch, customer-focused
operation which includes a full scope of product offerings. We believe that
maintaining the entrepreneurship and agility of the organization at this local
level is key.
Of course, as John
mentioned earlier, we also see an increase in growth as one of the key goals in
this transaction. Although we have not factored this impact into the economics
we presented today, we believe that these opportunities are real and
substantial. They include new offerings, improved customer density, as well as
international expansion on the packaged gas side, with all of those efforts
helped by a more robust product offering that the combined company will be able
to offer our customers.
Today, I can only
briefly outline our plans. Be assured we have given this combination a thorough
analysis and we have developed the detailed set of plans which we look forward
to verifying with Airgas when we get that opportunity, and sharing it with you
as we finalize them.
Please turn to
slide 17. Before I turn things back over to John, let me summarize our next
steps. Last night, along with our offer and as is usual in these types of
transactions, we also filed a suit in Delaware Court in support of our offer. We
still hope that Airgas' management and board will see the value in this
transaction for the Airgas shareholders and engage with us to negotiate a
deal.
We have the
financing committed and we are ready to move forward with a tender offer
directly to the Airgas shareholders. We are also prepared to make the
appropriate divestitures to gain regulatory approval.
Ultimately, if
needed, we are prepared to launch a proxy contest as the final step to getting
this transaction done. As John outlined to you earlier, this deal has tremendous
strategic and industrial logic. We are convinced of the value generation for our
shareholders, and we have done our homework on what is required to make this
transaction a success. We are committed to see this transaction through all the
necessary steps we need to take to complete it and unlock the value of this
combination.
Now I will turn
things back over to John.
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John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
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Thank you, Paul.
Please turn to slide 19. Before we move to your questions, let me provide you
with a few takeaways. As Paul just mentioned, we are committed to completing
this transaction. We believe we are offering Airgas shareholders a full and fair
all-cash offer that represents a significant increase in their value. To our own
shareholders, this transaction provides a great opportunity to drive growth,
create new opportunities, and generate significantly more cash for your
investment.
As I stated
earlier, the transaction will bring together the strengths and skills of two
outstanding organizations, and we look forward to welcoming Airgas' employees
into our company.
We do believe the
timing is excellent for a reentry into the US packaged gas marketplace, and
Airgas' skills will help us to further expand our packaged gas operations
outside of North America.
Lastly, let me
address execution. I have placed a significant amount of focus on improving this
Company during my time as Chief Executive Officer. You are seeing the results of
this added focus through the recent margin and return increases, and we will
continue on this path of improvement.
We will apply the
same rigorous execution to this transaction, and we look forward to working with
the outstanding team at Airgas, combining our respective capabilities to create
significant shareholder value.
Now let me turn
this call back to Felicia who will take your questions.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Operator
(Operator
Instructions) Jeff Zekauskas, JPMorgan.
Jeff Zekauskas - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Hi, good morning.
In the $250 million of cost synergies that you think you will be able to create,
what would be the cash costs of accomplishing that, Paul?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Yes, Jeff, the cash
costs of doing that, we don't have final plans actually, because we don't have
all the statistics, but we would expect probably somewhere in the $350 million
to $400 million range at this point in time.
Jeff Zekauskas - JPMorgan -
Analyst
And then for my
follow-up, you said the transaction would be accretive on a GAAP basis. Does
that include amortization costs, amortization of intangibles that you might have
to pick up? And sort of what's your amortization number or how does amortization
costs increase?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Jeff, yes, it does.
It does include that in those. You can see that on the graph. That is the
difference between what I termed as cash EPS and GAAP EPS. That is the sole
difference. So you can get to an easier cash flow number on there.
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If you look at --
year one, the cash costs -- I mean the amortization is higher because you have a
writeup of inventory which has to flow through on GAAP. When we look at that,
it's probably somewhere between $0.30 and $0.35 right now on that
graph.
Jeff Zekauskas - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay, thank you
very much.
Operator
Mike Sison,
KeyBanc.
Mike Sison - KeyBanc -
Analyst
In terms of -- you
supply a lot of gas to Airgas. Could you remind us how that relationship works,
and do you generate any savings or synergies from that relationship if the
acquisition does get consummated?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Well, yes, we do
have a long-term contract with Airgas. I never have divulged the specifics of
that and wouldn't want to do this on this conversation today. Certainly we
expect to get supply chain efficiencies in this transaction, and they are part
of the overall synergies that Paul spoke to a moment ago.
Mike Sison - KeyBanc -
Analyst
Okay. Then when you
think about competitive -- is this a situation that you think the other majors
may consider coming in and taking a closer look at coming up with a competitive
bid?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
That is something I
really don't think we want to speculate on, Mike. They'll make their own
decisions. Our view is that we've made a very, very attractive offer here that
fully values this transaction.
Mike Sison - KeyBanc -
Analyst
Okay, thank
you.
Operator
Don Carson,
UBS.
Don Carson - UBS - Analyst
I guess the basic
question would be can Air Products manage a people-intensive business like
cylinder gases? Now I know you've got cylinder gases businesses outside of the
US, but the US is pretty unique, for example, with greater emphasis on hard
goods. So I am just wondering what gives you the confidence that you can manage
this business? Because wasn't that one of your rationales for exiting this
business in the past?
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John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Great question,
Don. The short answer is yes, I believe we can. And I say that with affirmation,
given the fact that we do do it in Europe; we do it through a lot of our joint
ventures around the globe where we have similar types of
businesses.
Most critically, we
see that the flashback team brings a lot of experience and expertise to the
table. And as we've gone through a number of the slides in the deck, it is
really those complementary skills and capabilities in my mind that really allow
me to say what I said with the level of confidence that I hope you hear from
me.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Don, one of the
things you asked, was the people intensity something which caused us to leave.
It was not. We had other priorities at that time. We had our hydrogen expansion,
expanding internationally. We got out of our [means] and emulsions business over
that time. We have since done a great job here in improving the Company and
bringing it up.
The business
really, at that point in time, was subscale, and a rollup in industry was called
for. And we made a choice on the resources on where to apply them for the
Company.
Don Carson - UBS - Analyst
As a follow-up to
that, you had one acquisition than didn't go well, the US healthcare. You had
been in the business elsewhere. What did you learn from that experience that you
would apply towards the integration of Airgas?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Well, I think a
couple of things, Don. First, as I think you well know, they are two extremely
different businesses in the United States, and frankly, they were two very
different companies. Airgas has done a very nice job of rolling up and
integrating. We started out subscale in healthcare, didn't like the results we
were seeing, didn't like the market dynamics that were unfolding from a pricing
reimbursement point of view, and really decided that it really wasn't a business
that we should stay in.
So if I were to say
the two things that I was unhappy with was certainly we didn't execute as well
as we could have, but more importantly, the market dynamics that were handed to
us from when we made the strategic decision to enter and when we made, albeit
the very difficult decision that Paul and I made to exit here had changed so
dramatically that we figured it was time to move on.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
And the other
point, Don, I think that you have to consider is that -- and Airgas is in a
market which we do understand. We do understand deeply the US industrial gas
market. We serve distributors, Airgas being one of them. So we understand how
this business operates well.
Don Carson - UBS - Analyst
Thank
you.
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Operator
David Begleiter,
Deutsche Bank.
David Begleiter - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
Good morning. John,
you discussed how this will not impact your growth in energy, Asia, electronics.
Can you expand on that a little bit more and what gives you the confidence that
you will not lose either the focus or the capital to maintain that growth rate
in those sectors?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Well, as we have
looked at this acquisition, we have obviously modeled in what our capital
expectations have been for the marketplace and the growth that we see. That is
the first point. And we have the balance sheet capability and a very robust
financing plan to manage that.
I think the second
point, though, is these are really different resources that are going to be
necessary to achieve this integration. A lot of our growth is in our tonnage
sector or in our Asian international sector, and those resources are largely
uninvolved with this transaction. Obviously, at a management level, we are going
to have to stay focused on both executing against our underlying business goals
and objectives -- and Paul was clear, we weren't walking away from them -- and
making sure that we do this integration appropriately. I really believe we have
a good plan put together to be able to achieve both of those.
David Begleiter - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
And on that same
track, you are making a bigger bet on US manufacturing, John. Is this a matter
of you are more bullish on US manufacturing than perhaps overseas? What gives
you the confidence to go longer in US manufacturing at this point in the
cycle?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Well, a couple of
things. One, I do see a recovering, albeit maybe slower than some of the rest of
the world. But I think one of the points we had in the presentation was over the
next five years, 28% of the world's growth still comes out of the United States
economy. And by adding Airgas to our portfolio, we also get to touch a lot of
other industry sectors that we really don't have access to that are primarily
packaged gas markets. And/or gain the opportunity to do a lot of cross-selling,
if you will, into sectors that in that packaged gas sector where there is a nice
liquid opportunity as well.
So it's really the
combination of those, but it really gets to the absolute size when you look at
where the growth is going to come from globally. It is still a big, big chunk of
the global growth.
David Begleiter - Deutsche Bank -
Analyst
Thank you very
much.
Operator
Laurence Alexander,
Jeffries.
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Laurence Alexander - Jefferies -
Analyst
Good morning. If
you look out four to five years and you compare -- let me put it this way, if
you compare the margins of Airgas' business currently with the integration
margins that you see in your packaged gas assets elsewhere in the world, what do
you think margins can get to over four or five years, and where would you see
the endgame as the US market consolidates?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Laurence, as you
can see, we have given you a view of cash margins for the first couple years of
the transaction, and we would intend to keep growing that going out there. As we
have talked about in the future, we have a major margin improvement program
going already. We are still committed to take all the actions which we have in
place to get to our 17% margin by 2011.
We would intend to
work very hard and to put a major effort on improving the margins of the
acquired Airgas business. We think that is something which we can do well. So we
get to about a 26% margin in year two, and we would hope to continue growth
above that. I don't want to give a single number out there, but we would not
stop at 26%.
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Yes, I want to just
reinforce that point. We will give you interim targets as we have laid out here,
but we are going to continue to drive that number.
Laurence Alexander - Jefferies -
Analyst
But is that -- I
guess what is your equivalent cash margin in your European packaged gas
assets?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
We are not going to
talk about that business individually at this point in time. I don't think
that's a subject really for this call. The business is a little bit
different.
Laurence Alexander - Jefferies -
Analyst
Thank
you.
Operator
P.J. Juvekar,
Citi.
P.J. Juvekar - Citi - Analyst
Good morning. You
mentioned that you are willing to increase the offer if Airgas shows you
additional value. What kind of value are you looking for? Is it additional
cost-cutting or is it something about the operations or the M&A pipeline?
Can you talk about that?
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John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Well, we are not
going to bid against ourselves here, but in our discussions we said if they
could demonstrate in response to they don't feel that we've provided sufficient
value. They can demonstrate whether it be in growth, whether it be in more facts
around our assumptions, because obviously a lot of our assumptions here are
based on publicly available information, we are absolutely willing to consider
that. But to date, we have not really had in my mind the level of engagement
that we should have to be able to discuss any different valuation.
P.J. Juvekar - Citi - Analyst
My second question
is you got out of healthcare while your other large competitors stayed in
healthcare, because they could make it work with the synergies between
healthcare and packaged gases. I don't know, do you buy that argument, and how
does that impact your thinking now looking back about the two different
(inaudible)?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
Well, looking back,
I am glad we exited our US healthcare business, and I am predominately because
the market dynamics have changed dramatically, and I would expect them to
continue to change. So my response would be while it was a difficult decision, I
think it was the right decision and I'm glad we did it as soon as we did
it.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
And the healthcare
business -- this is Paul -- the healthcare business is just -- it is not a
packaged gas business. It is taking -- it's running concentrators around two
things, a much different model on pricing. You just don't control price in that
business, and that in the end was the straw that broke our back in that
business.
P.J. Juvekar - Citi - Analyst
And just lastly,
Paul, do you own any Airgas shares currently? Thank you.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Yes, we do. Yes, we
do. We have bought Airgas shares.
P.J. Juvekar - Citi - Analyst
Can you comment on
how much or how many?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
We have bought them
pretty much up to the limit which we are allowed under the Hart-Scott-Rodino
filing. So we own approximately 1.5 million of Airgas shares.
P.J. Juvekar - Citi - Analyst
Thank
you.
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John McNulty,
Credit Suisse.
John McNulty - Credit Suisse -
Analyst
Good morning. Just
a quick question. Can you just -- just so we know in terms of your willingness
on negotiation and that type of thing and where things may go, is it an Air
Products policy with regard to acquisitions that it has to be cash EPS accretive
in the first year?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
We don't have a
stated policy on that. We look at each and every acquisition all on its
individual merits, how it fits our strategy, both from a short-term and a
long-term growth perspective.
John McNulty - Credit Suisse -
Analyst
Okay, fair enough.
And then with regard to financing costs, can you kind of put us in the right
ballpark in terms of what kind of financing costs you would be talking about on
this?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Yes, and currently
- -- and what we have is we have a bridge financing, which JPMorgan has -- they
have committed to, to cover all of the costs for the equity, for the debt which
would have to be refinanced, and the fees in which we would have to pay. So we
have access to all of that. The bridge lasts for a year for us. And I cannot
talk about the pricing of that at this point in time.
John McNulty - Credit Suisse -
Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks
a lot.
Operator
Mike Harrison,
First Analysis.
Mike
Harrison -
First
Analysis - Analyst
I was wondering if
you could talk about what your plans might be with the Airgas brand? Would you
retain that brand and let them essentially run the packaged gas business
themselves? Would you plan to export that brand and rebrand your international
packaged gas operations with Airgas?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
You know, I think
those are plans that we'd discuss in the future as we got further down this
process. I'm really not going to comment any further on that today.
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Mike Harrison - First Analysis -
Analyst
All right. The
other question I had is, was just hoping for a little bit more detail around how
you arrived at this $60 share price, given that Airgas is coming off trough
earnings.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
If you look at the
way in which we've done it, we have taken a look at a model for Airgas which we
have modeled out, going out to the future. We have assumed a growth rate which
is consistent with the manufacturing guidance which we have given you guys
previously on the United States, which is a slow growth, slow to no growth in
our fiscal 2010. And then growth accelerating in 2011 and 2012 for
there.
We then went and
put the savings which we could get on the cost side, the synergies into that,
and we came up with a value for it. We took off the debt. We said how much can
we give to the Airgas shareholders and still have this be a very, very good deal
for the Air Products shareholders. And you can see that it is; we are accretive
from day one. And that solved to the $60 share price.
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
I think the point
people are missing as well is that this does represent a nice premium to their
52-week high to their current trading multiple. It is all cash. And in Airgas'
response to us, they'd didn't acknowledge the all-cash component here, and we'd
really like to engage with their management and a special committee of their
board to really get that point across.
Mike Harrison - First Analysis -
Analyst
All right, look
forward to seeing what happens. Thanks.
Operator
Sergey Vasnetsov,
Barclays Capital.
Sergey Vasnetsov - Barclays Capital -
analyst
I dropped off the
call a couple times, so I apologize if you already answered that question. Have
you talked about cash costs of integration first year and second
year?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Yes, we have talked
about the cash cost of it. We'd say about $350 million to $400 million in costs
to do the integration, and some of that would be capital associated with things
like the IT systems, etc.
Sergey Vasnetsov - Barclays Capital -
analyst
Sure. In terms of
approximate cost of financing, can you give us at least some
brackets?
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Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
I did say that
earlier, and we can't talk about it. We do have the bridge financing which is
committed from JPMorgan at this point in time for the full value of the equity
and the debt which we have to refinance, and the fees which we will have to
pay.
Sergey Vasnetsov - Barclays Capital -
analyst
Okay, thank
you.
Operator
David Manthey,
Robert W. Baird.
David Manthey - Robert W. Baird -
Analyst
Did you say that
the board of Airgas has not responded to the $60 all-cash offer? I'm trying to
follow the chain of letters here. What is the last offer that they actually
rejected?
John McGlade - Air Products - Chairman, President
& CEO
The last offer they
rejected was our offer of December 17, which was a $62 a share with up to 50% in
cash and 50% in equity in Air Products stock.
David Manthey - Robert W. Baird -
Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Based on the modeling that you talked about just a moment ago, what EBITDA
multiples are you assuming as you look at calendar 2010 or 2011? And I don't
know if you can talk about it pre- and post-synergies.
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
So if you look at
calendar 2010, what we have is a 10.5 multiple, which is the last 12 months
before the synergies; 7.6 after we include the $250 million of savings which we
will achieve by the end of year two.
David Manthey - Robert W. Baird -
Analyst
So the 7.6 is on
calendar 2010, including synergies?
Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
Yes. It is calendar
2010, including the savings there.
David Manthey - Robert W. Baird -
Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Then last question, you discussed the path forward. Could you tell us what
specifically are the next couple of dates or deadlines we should be watching
for?
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Paul Huck - Air Products - SVP &
CFO
We are not going to
disclose our schedule at this point in time.
David Manthey - Robert W. Baird -
Analyst
Okay, thank
you.
Operator
This concludes our
question-and-answer session. At this time, I will turn the conference back to
management for any additional remarks.
Nelson Squires - Air Products -
IR
Thanks, Felicia.
Just a reminder, the replay of this call will be available at 2 p.m. today on
our website. Thank you for joining us and have a nice day.
Operator
That concludes the
conference call. Thank you for your participation.